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Eigenbau Fiat 180 NT + Bartoletti "volta corretta" semi trailer

Luca72

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I started this model while I was still building my "Mercedes 1838 4x4". I started drawing the cab just for fun, but when it started to resemble the real truck I decided it had to become my second truck.

At the beginning I planned to make a construction truck with two axle kipper semi-trailer. But I casually saw a picture of a Bartoletti "volta corretta" semitrailer and I decided it had to be "it"

All parts I designed for this model can be downloaded at my GitHub: Fiat180NT and Bartoletti_Trailer

In the next posts I will describe all the steps of the building.
 
Hallo Luca,

it´s really impressive what you made! :ok
I am doing alittle 3D printing but honestly I am not good in design. With a cabin I have some challenges. I am using FreeCad.
What design software do you use?

Best regards
Bert
 
Hallo Luca,
it´s really impressive what you made! :ok
I am doing alittle 3D printing but honestly I am not good in design. With a cabin I have some challenges. I am using FreeCad.
What design software do you use?

Thanks :) , I use Freecad too. I started with addictions and subtractions of cubes, cylinders and other basic parts. Recently I am using a little bit more Draft to create 2D parts and then I extrude them. I have a lot more to learn, but I am able to design almost all the parts I need.

Fiat 180 cab was a sequence of simple math operations on basic primitives. I am still surprised it came out so similar to the real cab :hfg

Luca
 
Hello Luca,
I thought the scale was about 1/50 because it looks much smaller compared to the tiled floor.
But it is a perfekt Model :like

:winker
 
Cab design and 3Dprinting - Spring 2014

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I started just for fun... to see how difficult was to design with FreeCAD a truck cab. But after some time it really started to resemble the real cab.
Fiat "UNI" cab is one of the most beautiful looking cab in my opinion and I could not wait to have it.

Designing took some weeks and at the end the result satisfied me completely.

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I never printed such a big object, before, so I tried a half scale print and it came out really nice. So I decided it was time for the real print.
I decided to split the cab in two halves and print it


Here is the lower half while printing

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Once both part were finished I glued them together. Then I printed the other parts.


Here is the cab completed:

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here is the finished cab compared to the cab of the Mercedes 1838

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Once I had the cab ready I had to think about the truck configuration. I always had a sweet point for three axle, twin steering tractors. They were quite popular in Italy in the middle of the seventies. So I decided to use my cab for a 6x2 tractor.

Luca
 
Trilex rims - Summer 2014

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Trilex are the most distinguishable part of trucks from the seventies. They are beautiful and I tried to model them just after I finished the cab.
I have to admit I was particularly successful. So far they were my best designed part. I immediately printed and painted them in red.

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Withe the tamiya tires they looked beautiful.

Rear rims were modeled and printed too:

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Here another view of the front wheel, complete with the cap:

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With all the wheel ready I could have a preview of the truck:

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At this point I desperately needed a frame :hfg

Luca
 
Frame - Steering - Summer 2014

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When I started designing the frame I had to find a solution for steering 4 wheels. I absolutely wanted to avoid double servo because I do not think it is a reliable solution. Luckily I found the original service manual page of the Fiat 180 steering adjustment. I found only that page of the manual, but it was enough. I copied the mech as it was on the original truck. It consists of two levers that move the axle steering knuckle with short tie rods. And there is a long rod which connects the two levers at different eight. This makes the difference of moving between the front and the rear axle. A big movement of the front lever become a smaller movement in the rear one. Finding the right ratio makes a perfect Ackermann compliant steering with 4 wheels.

I had to design a steering knuckle adapter to be able to use standard Tamiya front axles (they can only actuated using transversal tie rods, I wanted longitudinal attach).

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I used really small 3x6x2.5 bearings in the levers to make the movement even smoother:

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Here is the mech just mounted:

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And here are the double front axles steering:

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It worked even better than I though. Using high quality ball joint I obtained virtually zero slash. And the movement ratio was very good: I could use a standard 7Kg servo and it made little effort at steering in any condition.

Luca
 
Frame - Summer 2014

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Trucks from the seventies had leafsprings mounted below the frame instead of having them mounted at the sides. . So frames were wider. I decided for 80mm. I had to create different attaches for the Tamiya leafsprings and for the rear axle I decided to use a partially printed frame. It turned out way more solid than I expected and i never failed in almost a decade. For the rear axle I bought a lockable axle used in the chinese first "Armageddon" truck (it was 8x4 and i had plastic axles). I found it cheap and very similar to the real Fiat axle.
With all the axle mounted I obtained this:

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Temporary (waiting for a better solution) the fifth wheel was attached to a crossmember and I fixed the cab. I mounted the axles not at the same height. I kept the central axle slightly lifted. It was not noticeable and the wheels turned anyway, but it gave more traction to the rear wheels.

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Now it was time to make it move.

Luca
 
Hallo Luca,

thank you for the detailed report - I will continue to follow :ok
 
Pretty cool rare project. Well done - Grazie

Dear Luca,

Thanks for this pics, and your detailed report. I remembered this cab.

Kind regards

Christian
 

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